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講色水當然係富士好


只要唔介意貴一蚊幾毫,我有方法可以有富士色水、NIKON 機械再加埋 ZEISS 光學喎....

菲林:NIKON機+富士菲林+ ZEISS鏡頭 :lol:
數碼:蛇x+zf :twisted:


小弟有以上兩種配搭! 數碼明顯未見滿意, 都是招呼家人, 不能滿足自己 :evil:

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大大看過sample冇,慘不忍睹!

http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/review/2008/03/24/8114.html

紫邊, noise 不絕, 再加上約$6000的標價, 絕對足以讓我這位期待者卻步!


For real, I do not think anybody should expect much of optical performance from such high ratio zoom. For its coverage, this lens is actually one of the better ones among high zoom ratio coverage DC. Its actually better than many of the high ratio zoom for DSLR !

And as a DC of petite sized sensor, Noise is always there, Nobody should really expect much clean image beyond the base ISO.

My take on this, is that this DC is pretty much like the Sigma DP-1, Base ISO, RAW / JPEG shooting platform. With some leeway for JPEG within reasonable aspect of shooting environment. And considering its 11MP, its JPEG is controlled enough for routine Web, monitor display and print. Getting too excited about 100% crop is IMHO over reacting. I do not view all these photo with full resolution at 100% crop just as I do not take my slide and view them at 30X or 40X ( this is the approximate Mag ratio when you do 100% crop on monitor ). If one download those full sized sample and resize them for full sized monitor display or print, then one realize that the problem stated is no longer a problem anymore just as grain in HIGH ISO film is not a problem once the size of neg is big or size of print is small.

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大大看過sample冇,慘不忍睹!

http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/review/2008/03/24/8114.html

紫邊, noise 不絕, 再加上約$6000的標價, 絕對足以讓我這位期待者卻步!


For real, I do not think anybody should expect much of optical performance from such high ratio zoom. For its coverage, this lens is actually one of the better ones among high zoom ratio coverage DC. Its actually better than many of the high ratio zoom for DSLR !

And as a DC of petite sized sensor, Noise is always there, Nobody should really expect much clean image beyond the base ISO.

My take on this, is that this DC is pretty much like the Sigma DP-1, Base ISO, RAW shooting platform. With some leeway for JPEG within reasonable aspect of shooting environment. And considering its 11MP, its JPEG is controlled enough for routine Web, monitor display and print. Getting too excited about 100% crop is IMHO over reacting. I do not view all these photo with full resolution at 100% crop just as I do not take my slide and view them at 30X or 40X ( this is the approximate Mag ratio when you do 100% crop on monitor ). If one download those full sized sample and resize them for full sized monitor display or print, then one realize that the problem stated is no longer a problem anymore just as grain in HIGH ISO film is not a problem once the size of neg is big or size of print is small.


Very good comments! 8)

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岩岩買左F100FD :twisted:

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岩岩買左F100FD :twisted:


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大大看過sample冇,慘不忍睹!

http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/review/2008/03/24/8114.html

紫邊, noise 不絕, 再加上約$6000的標價, 絕對足以讓我這位期待者卻步!


For real, I do not think anybody should expect much of optical performance from such high ratio zoom. For its coverage, this lens is actually one of the better ones among high zoom ratio coverage DC. Its actually better than many of the high ratio zoom for DSLR !


I agree! So I wish to buy it before.


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And as a DC of petite sized sensor, Noise is always there, Nobody should really expect much clean image beyond the base ISO.


It's so simple. Don't need anybody to remind us! Don't think that everybody is fool except you!!!

Moreover, compare the size, it must have bigger CCD size than the f100d. But the picture quality was shown worse obviously.
On the other hand, if it's position in the market is placed as a prosumer camera, quality below DSLR can be accept, if below a DC, how can we accepted?

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My take on this, is that this DC is pretty much like the Sigma DP-1, Base ISO, RAW shooting platform. With some leeway for JPEG within reasonable aspect of shooting environment. And considering its 11MP, its JPEG is controlled enough for routine Web, monitor display and print.


I know and those your points were the reasons that I wish to buy for!

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Getting too excited about 100% crop is IMHO over reacting. I do not view all these photo with full resolution at 100% crop just as I do not take my slide and view them at 30X or 40X ( this is the approximate Mag ratio when you do 100% crop on monitor ). If one download those full sized sample and resize them for full sized monitor display or print, then one realize that the problem stated is no longer a problem anymore just as grain in HIGH ISO film is not a problem once the size of neg is big or size of print is small.


It's a simple knowledge and common sense. Thanks for your remind but you can keep it. Thank you.
If the picture just resize to the A4 size and still have the problem. How can the customer accept it with nearly double the price of other DC?

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岩岩買左F100FD :twisted:


Post 相啦大哥,等睇相呀


Me too. Thank you. King 大大

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不是發燒級測試, 但值得一看
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Thank you and really like your saying of "不是發燒級測試"..... although 不是發燒級測試, it is already a pretty good test! 8)

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BTW, what's roughly the price of this one right now !!

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BTW, what's roughly the price of this one right now !!


$3050-$3080, 未見有黑色,尾燕 JAPAN,不過好可惜,有價冇貨

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Well then I suppose that is for nothing if no one can get retail stock ... :roll: Anyway, I am more interested in the S100FS instead

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Well then I suppose that is for nothing if no one can get retail stock ... :roll: Anyway, I am more interested in the S100FS instead


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大大,愚蠢和多口請問一句:在哪裏購獲?行貨嗎?:?:

因答應幫朋友買,要訂都要問清楚先,謝謝!

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大大,愚蠢和多口請問一句:在哪裏購獲?行貨嗎?:?:

因答應幫朋友買,要訂都要問清楚先,謝謝!


行貨,不過反應好到出奇,一出就冇哂

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